A Conversation About the Timing of the Rapture

One of the most controversial and hotly debated questions among Christians in the recent past has been the timing of the rapture. It is very important to have a correct rapture view—very important. Below is a hypothetical rapture conservation which I hope will help Christians come to a better understanding of the rapture’s timing.

Question: Do you believe the scriptures, God’s Holy Word, the Bible, are the final authority in all matters of doctrine?

Answer: Yes, of course I do.

Question: According to the scriptures below, is the rapture part of an event known as the Day of the Lord?

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1 Thes 4:15-5:2

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Thes 2:1,2

Answer: Yes, I see that the rapture is part of the Day of the Lord event.

Question: According to the scripture below, what happens before the Day of the Lord begins?

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: Acts 2:20

Answer: Well, it says that the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood before the Day of the Lord begins.

Question: According to the scripture below, when is the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood?

And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; Rev 6:12

Answer: The sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood after the Sixth Seal is opened.

Question: Does scripture tell us that there Is any other time during the end times that the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood?

Answer: No.

Statement: We can therefore conclude that according to scriptures, the rapture, as an event of the Day of the Lord, must occur after the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood, which we know occurs after the Sixth Seal is opened.

Question: Do you agree with this statement?

Answer: I am not sure, that is a new concept to me, I have never had it explained to me like that before. I have always believed that the rapture will occur at the beginning, before Seal 1.

Question: I understand what you are saying. Let me show you a confirmation that the rapture occurs after Seal 6 is opened. According to the scriptures below, what do people see after the Sixth Seal is opened?

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Answer: They see the Lord.

Question: From your knowledge of scripture, during the end times when do people see the Lord?

Answer: At the rapture and at Armageddon.

Question: Which one of the two is the passage above referring to?

Answer: The Sixth Seal does not involve Armageddon, so it would have to be the rapture.

So you have affirmed;

1. The rapture is part of the day of the Lord.

2. That the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood before the day of the lord.

3. The sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood after the opening of Seal 6.

Therefore sound logic dictates that the rapture/day of the Lord event occurs after Seal 6 is opened and the sun is darkened and the moon turns to blood. And to confirm this you have also just agreed that Jesus appears in the sky after the opening of seal 6 and that this is not at Armageddon, so it has to be at the rapture.

Thus; you have just logically concluded and thereby proved that the rapture does not occur until after the opening of Seal 6. What do you believe now about the timing of the rapture?

Answer: __________________________.

So if the rapture will not happen until Seal 6 is opened, that means that all that are alive at the time will be faced with living through Seals 1 to 5. And there is a possibility that the Seals may already have been opened.

Are We Hearing the Hoof Beats of the 4 Horses of the Apocalypse?

Remember; the truth shall set you free.

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Is It Time for Them to Pop Another 911?

 

The high priestess Lady Gaga released a song in 2020 called 911. In the song which I do not recommend listening to, which I have not, or watching, has what I believe to be several instances of predictive programming for the next 911 type event(s)—the lyrics “pop another 911” were repeated several times. 

Here are a few screenshots of what I believe to be predictive programming and what I believe they are signaling.

The wrecked bike (2 wheels—seal 2), girl dressed in red—seal 2 red horse of the Apocalypse on white sands of the desert—within the framework of the White horse of Seal 1. With the horse and rider in black overlooking above—the Seal 3 black horse will soon follow after the Seal 2 event.

The black horse—Seal 3 black horse/famine. White Sands NM. Notice the 3 stars, 3 is a trinity, this is a signal to the trinity nuclear test that was conducted in White Sands NM. This signals that a nuclear incident/war is coming which may follow or precipitate the Seal 3 hyperinflationary collapse. 

Nothing new there, any student of the Bible knows about Seal 2 and 3 and that they will one day come upon the world. 

Any signal to the timing? Ask why would they have a sign with Armenian film festival on it? 

Is it because just maybe these events might possibly follow an Armenian war? And look what just popped up in the news. 

BREAKING: ARMENIAN SOCIAL MEDIA USERS REPORT, FIGHTING HAS STARTED ALL ALONG THE ARMENIAN-AZERBAIJANI BORDER. 

Armenia Requests Russian Military Assistance As Fighting Breaks Out With Azerbaijan

BREAKING NEWS: TURKEY MOBILIZING 45,000 RESERVE TROOPS TOWARD ARMENIA BORDER; IRAN MOBILIZING REGULAR ARMY WITH HEAVY ARMOR TO SAME AREA 

So, has the predictive programming been deciphered, is the current war that has broken out between Armenia and Azerbaijan a signal that the Seal 2 WW3 and the Seal 3 hyperinflationary collapse, the red horse and the black horse, are near to finishing running their course? Or will the war calm down and a yet future war between Armenia and Azerbaijan will be the precursor war. As always, time will tell. 

But remember when the horses are finished riding throughout the earth ¼ of the world’s population will be dead. Also realize that they may try to hide that fact from us. 

After that the false messiah will come on the scene offering the world a solution to its problems. The world will fall for his deception, and he will be made the king of the world. The two witnesses will also arise at this time and then the Seal 5 persecution of Jews and Christians—great tribulation—where no one can buy or sell without the mark, will come into play. 

Thankfully not long after will be the Christian’s rescue from the war being waged against them via the rapture which occurs after seal 6 has been opened. You see the rapture occurs at the Day of the Lord. 

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1 Thes 4:16 – 5:2

 

1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Thes 2

 

Most Christians believe the rapture occurs at the Day of the Lord event. But what most Christians ignore is what scripture says about its timing—the Day of the Lord begins after the moon is turned to blood. 

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: Acts 2 

The moon is turned to blood after the opening of Seal 6. 

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; Rev 6 

Therefore, sound logic demands the following chronology of events.

 

Seal 6—moon to blood—Day of the Lord—rapture

 

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:36 

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Is it Going to Break Loose September 22-26, 2022?

 

Update 9/26: Looks like it has begun Hal Turner Radio Show - PLUNGE: This isn't some Rinky-Dink Stock, it's the British Pound!

Several pieces of data are pointing to 9/22-26/2022 as the time when a monumental event(s) may take place. Some of this information has already been discussed in previous posts, some is new. Here is a rundown.

 

9/22 to 9/24 Predictive programming 

The Possible 9/22 Hoover Dam Event

The signaled date of the destruction of the Hoover dam

The Predicted 9/23/2022 Solar flare 

CARRINGTON-LIKE CORONAL MASS EJECTION (CME) TO STRIKE EARTH ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 23… 

had decided not to write this article–about a week ago when I first heard about it. Giving credence to EOTW predictions that put an exact date on the catastrophe only ever leaves you with egg on your face–and this one not only provides a date, but an exact time, too! Still, the multidisciplinary approach is interesting, and the date isn’t very far away, meaning we don’t have to wait long to test the hypothesis. 

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 05:07 UT a powerful Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) will strike Earth –a Carrington-like event– that will ring in the end of the world as we know it. This is according to scientist Ali Al-Rubaidi in a paper published last month on ResearchGate that is “based on Science and The Quran”–a multidisciplinary approach I find curious… 

Source: https://electroverse.co/carrington-like-coronal-mass-ejection-cme-to-strike-earth-on-friday-september-23/ 

Note: Consider the source

 

9/24/2022; a day you will never forget 

A legislator in Germany took to the floor of the Bundestag this past week, and let slip a date: September 24. I have had this translated. He said: "Dear colleagues, this 24. of September 2022 will be a day remaining in our memories as a day we will say, I remember exactly where I was"… 

Source: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/ooops-german-legislator-lets-slip-the-date

 

The Put Options 

Every once in awhile, there's a chart that just blows your hair back. In years of doing this, none stand out like this one. Last week, institutional traders bought $8.1 billion worth of "put" options. They bought less than $1 billion in calls. 

Source: https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/financial-guys-three-times-more-extreme-than-2008

 

The Shemitah and Jubilee Cycles 

So, will we see the financial fall continue? Will the Shemitah and Jubilee financial downturn cycles accelerate and continue into 2023? Will 9/25/2022—Elul 29—be a day of a major financial downturn? Will the false messiah show up during this Jubilee year? 

Source: https://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2022/08/the-shemitah-and-jubilee-will-fall.html 

And let’s consider the words of Egon Van Greyerz. 

AN AUTUMN WITH EPIC COLLAPSES OF STOCKS, DEBT, CURRENCIES, MUCH HIGHER INFLATION – LEADING TO POVERTY & SOCIAL UNREST 

As generally is the case before major turns in markets, optimism is still high. But this autumn is likely to change all that as the realities outlined at the beginning of this article finally hit the world. 

Stock markets are now extremely near finishing the correction and to resume the downtrend in earnest. It is possible that the real falls in markets will wait until September but the risk is here now and very dangerous. 

What we know with certainty is that the world is facing a wealth destruction and wealth transfer of major proportions. 

Most paper assets will die a relatively quick death and that includes paper money. 

This will obviously include stocks, bonds, property and all derivatives. Falls of 75-95% in the next few years will not be uncommon. 

As currencies finish their journey to ZERO (they are already down 97-99% since 1971) no use betting on the horse that comes last to the bottom whether it is the Dollar or the Euro. 

They will all get there! 

Instead, the only money which has survived in history is gold and silver and these metals will continue to maintain their purchasing power or even enhance it as all fiat money is killed off by governments and central banks by the creation of an unlimited supply.

 

And then there is this to consider. 

Massive rail strike next week could deal another blow to America's economy 

The looming possibility of a strike by unions representing more than 90,000 workers at the nation's freight railroads has businesses nationwide worried. The unions are poised to go on strike on September 16, a move that could bring nearly 30% of the nation's freight to a grinding halt, according to data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. 

It's about the last thing the US economy needs as it struggles to get over several years of supply chain issues. A prolonged strike could mean empty shelves in stores, temporary closures at factories that don't have the parts they need to operate, and higher prices due to the limited availability of various consumer goods.

 

On the War Front 

The West is about to withdraw from the negotiations on the nuclear deal and a revolutionary situation will emerge. 

According to the Calculations of the Americans, if Iran continues to enrich uranium at such an accelerated rate, within a month they will have enough to make three nuclear bombs, and within four months they will have enough enriched uranium for five bombs… 

In early September, Israel's prime minister, visiting one of the air force bases, said that "If Iran continues to try, it will discover Israel's long arm and capabilities. It is too early to say whether we really managed to stop the nuclear agreement, but Israel is ready for any threat and any scenario…" 

The Iranians now seem to be planning some sort of show on the Temple Mount that is supposed to disrupt Jews celebrating Rosh Hashanah, so there is a suspicion that Israelis will congratulate the ayatollahs on the New Year a little earlier. Moreover, it is even possible that in the vicinity of Tehran for the next 300 years there will be no one to congratulate at all, so we are following the development of events.

 

Conclusion: 

By all accounts there is a lot pointing to the possibility of major events occurring 9/22-26/2022. I cannot tell you what will or will not happen this fall, if anything, all I can tell you is to watch and prepare for the possibilities. 

But whenever a major financial collapse occurs, and WW3 breaks out, and we see 25% of the world’s population killed by various means, then you need to awaken to the fact, if you have not already, that the four horses of the apocalypse have run their course and the antichrist will be soon to come onto the scene and the two witness too. Then the Seal 5 persecution of Jews and Christians will occur, and then the saints will be rescued at the rapture after Seal 6 has been opened.

Remember; if the last 7 years began in the fall of 2019 then the horses will have run their course by late 2022 or early 2023 with the ac arising in the spring of 2023. If the last 7 years began in the fall of 2020 then the horses will have run their course by late 2023 or early 2024 with the ac arising in the spring of 2024… 

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:36 

Have you had your epiphany? You need to be prepared for the end times! Read The Coming Epiphany;—Your Guide to Understanding End Times Bible Prophecy. 

Not sure that you will go to heaven? The end times are knocking on the door and so is Jesus. He wants to save you; will you let him in? Find out what you must do to be saved, click here.

King Charles, IPG2, and WW3

 

By now you all know there is a new king of the UK named King Charles III. I would like to bring to your attention a few interesting tidbits of information regarding Charles. 

First in IPG2 in the apple rolling scene, we see Obama’s shoe with a gold coin under it. Upon close examination of the coin we can see that the coin has a crown on it that closely resembles the crown of King Charles II.

 

Is there a connection there? Did the presence of the coin predict King Charles’ rise to the throne? Will Obama “stomp” on King Charles? Will the apple splitting event follow Charles’ ascension to the throne and his being “stomped out?” Note: Many think the apple splitting event may be a nuclear detonation involving WW3. 

Yet there is more, check this out, from The Big the One. 

…many Britons are well aware of the prophecy given to Prince Charles more than half a century ago. According to this prophecy, Prince Charles, who at that time was still a child, should inherit the throne already being at a very respectable age. He will rule for only 6 months, after which the throne will pass to one of his sons. And when his son ascends the throne, a global war will begin, during which England will be captured by foreign armies. 

Are you putting two and two together, do you see the connections? If the prophecy is valid then it looks like WW3 is right around the corner.

Update: Remember this?

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:36 

Have you had your epiphany? You need to be prepared for the end times! Read The Coming Epiphany;—Your Guide to Understanding End Times Bible Prophecy. 

Not sure that you will go to heaven? The end times are knocking on the door and so is Jesus. He wants to save you; will you let him in? Find out what you must do to be saved, click here. 

21214 and the Death of the Dollar

 

(Note: This is an attempt at deciphering coded information and coming up with a date for the death of the dollar. This attempt is only a theory and may be wrong, this is not prophecy, this is not “Thus saith the Lord.” Again, this is an attempt at deciphering coded information, it is a theory and may be wrong.) 

In 1981 a film came out called Rollover. It was about the death of the dollar brought about by the Saudis dumping the dollar. The film featured a special account whose number was 21214. 

It is rumored that the Saudis will in effect be “dumping the dollar” by joining BRICS in the near future. The exact date is not known at this time. 

But we do know how the evil forces love to use predictive programming, could the special account number 21214 in the movie have something to do with the date of the dumping of the dollar and or a financial collapse? 

Here is something I wrote in a previous post that may tie in. 

…If you draw a line from the King St station clock tower in Seattle, Washington, that was prominently featured in I Pet Goat II, to the most famous “tower” in America—the Washington Monument. The distance is between 2022.88 NM and 2022.89 NM.

 

Could that distance be suggesting a date in the year 2022? It just so happens that .88 of the way through the year 2022 is equal to the 322nd day of 2022, which would be 11/18/2022. Or using the other number, .89 of the way through the year would calculate to 11/22/2022. So that gives us a date range of 11/18/22 to 11/22/22. 

From 9/11/2001 to 11/22/2022 is 1106 (911) weeks or 2121.1 % of a 365-day year. (Note: In the financial collapse movie Rollover the number 21214 was featured. 2121.4% of a 365-day year from 9/11/01 would bring us to 11/23/22.) 

In the I PG 2 film the infamous rolling apple, unless I counted wrong, touches 22 squares as it rolls across the floor until it hits Obama’s shoe. This could be another signal to 2022. The apple hits the shoe at the 89 second mark, combing the two numbers; this could be a signal to 2022.89, which corresponds to 11/22/22. 

https://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2020/06/chaz-i-pet-goat-ii-and-seattle-attack.html 

Note: If you count day 1 as 9/11/2001, then 2121.4% of a 365-day year brings us to 11/22/2022. In IPG2 Obama’s shoe is on a gold coin. 

Another financial concern to be on the lookout for is the Shemitah and the Jubilee cycles. The Shemitah year began on 9/7/2021 and will end on Elul 29, 2022, which is 9/25/2022. 

Several financial reverses have occurred in the past during Shemitah years and sometimes a crash has occurred on the very day the Shemitah year ends—Elul 29—which this year will be 9/25/2022. That date is a Sunday, thus Monday 9/26/2022 would be an important date to watch. 

The Shemitah year this year is followed by a Jubilee year. Jubilee years can also be times of major downturns. See the post; The Shemitah and the Jubilee; Will the Fall Continue and Will the False Messiah Arrive? 

Thus, we have the IPG2 info, the 9/11 rollover 21214 connection, all syncing in a Jubilee cycle year. Has the code been cracked? Are we in for major financial events this fall? And if so, will they occur on 9/25-26/2022 and or 11/18-23/2022? 

Also realize that if we do see a major financial downturn this fall, that it may be Seal 3 connected. Seal 3 indicates the possibility of a hyperinflationary financial collapse which at least affects the price of food. 

5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 

6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 

And if we do see Seal 3 this fall then the UFO connected antichrist will not be far behind to offer the world the “solutions” to its problems. Unfortunately, the world will fall for his deceptions and the world will make him the king of the world. 

And after he takes over the world, he will initiate his Seal 5 persecution of Jews and Christians and institute his mark of the beast system where no one can buy or sell without the mark. Then comes our deliverance via the rapture at the Seal 6 Day of the Lord event. 

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:36 

Have you had your epiphany? You need to be prepared for the end times! Read The Coming Epiphany;—Your Guide to Understanding End Times Bible Prophecy. 

Not sure that you will go to heaven? The end times are knocking on the door and so is Jesus. He wants to save you; will you let him in? Find out what you must do to be saved, click here.