One of the most controversial and hotly debated questions among Christians in the recent past has been the timing of the rapture. It is very important to have a correct rapture view—very important. Below is a hypothetical rapture conservation which I hope will help Christians come to a better understanding of the rapture’s timing.
Question: Do you believe the scriptures, God’s Holy Word, the Bible, are the final authority in all matters of doctrine?
Answer: Yes, of course I do.
Question: According to the scriptures below, is the rapture part of an event known as the Day of the Lord?
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 1 Thes 4:15-5:2
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2 Thes 2:1,2
Answer: Yes, I see that the rapture is part of the Day of the Lord event.
Question: According to the scripture below, what happens before the Day of the Lord begins?
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: Acts 2:20
Answer: Well, it says that the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood before the Day of the Lord begins.
Question: According to the scripture below, when is the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood?
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; Rev 6:12
Answer: The sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood after the Sixth Seal is opened.
Question: Does scripture tell us that there Is any other time during the end times that the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood?
Answer: No.
Statement: We can therefore conclude that according to scriptures, the rapture, as an event of the Day of the Lord, must occur after the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood, which we know occurs after the Sixth Seal is opened.
Question: Do you agree with this statement?
Answer: I am not sure, that is a new concept to me, I have never had it explained to me like that before. I have always believed that the rapture will occur at the beginning, before Seal 1.
Question: I understand what you are saying. Let me show you a confirmation that the rapture occurs after Seal 6 is opened. According to the scriptures below, what do people see after the Sixth Seal is opened?
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Answer: They see the Lord.
Question: From your knowledge of scripture, during the end times when do people see the Lord?
Answer: At the rapture and at Armageddon.
Question: Which one of the two is the passage above referring to?
Answer: The Sixth Seal does not involve Armageddon, so it would have to be the rapture.
So you have affirmed;
1. The rapture is part of the day of the Lord.
2. That the sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood before the day of the lord.
3. The sun is darkened and the moon is turned to blood after the opening of Seal 6.
Therefore sound logic dictates that the rapture/day of the Lord event occurs after Seal 6 is opened and the sun is darkened and the moon turns to blood. And to confirm this you have also just agreed that Jesus appears in the sky after the opening of seal 6 and that this is not at Armageddon, so it has to be at the rapture.
Thus; you have just logically concluded and thereby proved that the rapture does not occur until after the opening of Seal 6. What do you believe now about the timing of the rapture?
Answer: __________________________.
So if the rapture will not happen until Seal 6 is opened, that means that all that are alive at the time will be faced with living through Seals 1 to 5. And there is a possibility that the Seals may already have been opened.
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William...
ReplyDeleteYou have boiled it down to brevity.
The pre tribbers just are taught by deceived pastors that are doing nothing but itching the ears of their lapdog congregation.
Having correct eschatology views is not required to obtain salvation....but in my opinion...many Christians will fall away when they fi d themselves in the tribulation. They will not have been as prepared.
As prepared as I am, it won't be enough , but it will help me be a witness for others salvation instead of me scrounging around trying to save my own life.
I agree and yes I do believe there will be a great opportunity for evangelism that is before people take the mark. Hopefully many will awaken to deception before it is too late.
DeleteThe flood was for a reason. The parting of the sea was for a reason. The destruction of Sodom was for a reason. What is the reason for the rapture?
ReplyDeleteRescue from the great tribulation and remove us before God's wrath is poured out upon the world. Like the ark before the flood.
DeleteOk? Specifically what does God “do” that is His wrath? No snakes? No lightning striking sinners??? What does God do?
DeleteIf the rapture occurs at the end of the 7 years then the followers of Jesus are not protected from wrath as Noah was? Am I missing something sir?
Good questions: God's wrath includes Seal 7, the trumpet judgments and the bowl judgments which ends at Armageddon. The rapture occurs at Seal 6, which occurs after the midpoint and before Seal 7.
DeleteGod has always had a pattern of rescuing or protecting His people, even in and through His punishments.
ReplyDelete2nd Peter 2:4-9
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
Also, remember Goshen. All the plagues of Egypt fell upon all the Egyptians, but the Word tells us that in Goshen where the Hebrews lived, the plagues did not touch. We are promised that we are not appointed to wrath, because we have believed upon Jesus our Messiah, that He bore our wrath for us on the cross.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.
So true, a Christian will not be subjected to God's wrath.
Delete1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ
And God's wrath begins after the opening of Seal 6 and that is why the Christians are raptured at that time--we are removed before God's wrath falls upon the earth.
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Do you really think, William, that if World War 3 breaks out even this fall, Jesus will not come back in the Rapture? The third world war can be compared to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the flood of Noah's time. The bride of Christ is not destined for the wrath of God! For example, if New York, or Babylon the Great, is destroyed in a tsunami, it is God's judgment. And now the war in Ukraine shows signs of escalation. I guess you are aware of the current situation? Putin is unpredictable. He has the Poseidon weapon system. America is constantly provoking Russia. I don't think we have to wait much longer. (IPG2 film is being realized)
ReplyDelete"Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth" (Rev 3:10)
Sad that so many mock 'The Rapture' for love of this world . They are comfortable running their OWN money making Ministries " huge YOU TUBE $$$$ profits ! PASTORS now SAVING THEIR OWN LIVES using Luciferian SIGN$..In front of the SLEEP SHEEP ! They have MANY MATERIAL THINGS THAT PRESSURE FROM TOP HAVE THREATS ON THEM TO CHOOSE JESUS OR SATAN> TO KEEP THEIR CRAP .. Instead of a Home JESUS IS PREPARING FOR US .NO THANK YOU DEVIL ! Have no idea that this world is NOT out home . THESSALONIANS 4:16 a child. can comprehend caught up means - RAPTURE! I will believe JESUS CHRIST ✝️. Not be left behind as the 5 foolish virgins . Who cared NONE to put oil 🪔 in their lamps to go and meet The Great BRIDEGROOM when He comes ~AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT. I also believe HE is coming for them who love the appearing of HIS Coming ! Never seen so many who just doesn't even care to take GOD ALMIGHTY at His Word . On something as serious as The RAPTURE - Knowing BLESSED is the one who is in the FIRST RESURRECTION, for the (Second Death)
Deletehath no power over them . Unbelievable how many will be in the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGEMENT! Because of Adding and taking away from GOD Word . Loving the world which is loving Lucifer instead OF JESUS WHO DIED FOR US . NOT THE RICH GREEDY MAN PASTOR FALSE PROPHETS$$$$Smh :-(