Tuesday, May 24, 2011

A Continuing Whirlwind and the 1967 Borders

God made a covenant with a people group thousands of years ago and He is still keeping that covenant today. The covenant was made with Abraham and his descendants.

And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 

3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,

4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.

5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.

6 And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.

7  And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.

8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.  Gen 17:1:8

As you well know the descendants of Abraham are the nation of Israel. So God has made an everlasting covenant with the nation of Israel. God has also promised to return to others what they do to her, both good and bad.

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Gen 12:3

So in other words "Back off." Don't mess with Israel or you will bring judgment upon yourself. Look Israel is not perfect they have committed sins--many of which are listed in scripture. But that does not give any nation the right to go against them. They are God's special people and God has made a covenant with them and has promised to return in kind what others do to them. BTW Christians are special too--God's children.

Soo... I believe that the latest turn in events that has been all over the news between the United States and Israel is not good and will result in judgment coming upon us. What did we do to them? We made it clear that the United States--who by our own admission "owns" the peace process--is pursuing a radical policy change in that we want Israel to return to its 1967 pre-war borders (map 1) while establishing the Palestinian state. The administration back pedaled a little bit on that and are now saying the 1967 borders with mutually agreed swaps.

In fact we have the support of many nations in this 1967 borders endeavor and are trying to gain more support.

Obama has already secured the political backing of the United Nations, European Union and Russia who, with America, are collectively known as the "quartet". Signalling his determination to keep up pressure on Israel, Obama will be looking to enlist the public support of the UK prime minister. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/21/obama-cameron-pre-1967-palestinian-borders

Israel's response: Israel said this is unacceptable because it would place them in an indefensible position and our demands were like a slap in the face that sent chills through Israel's government. In response Israel also announced plans to build 1500 more settlements in East Jerusalem.

So knowing that God will return to us what we have done to her, how might God respond to our actions in leading the world against Israel? Well what are we trying to do to them? We are trying to force Israel to give up about 2800 sq miles--about 30% of their land--that would cut their land in half and would put them in an indefensible position--it would bring them back to 1967. We are also basically saying that their 1967 war was illegitimate. This was truly a slap in the face! And the latest is that we have told Israel that patience is running out in regards to the peace process--inferring that they are to blame for this whole mess.

I like the way Ultraguy from New Wineskins put it; "Put another way, the President of the United States is not only joining, for the first time in history, all other nations on the planet in opposing Israel’s right and ability to defend itself (and thus it’s right to exist). He is leading that initiative, raising the nations’ expectations, adding fuel to those sentiments" http://newine.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/the-67-borders-another-quick-note/

So if God were to respond to us in kind then what might He do to us? Well I believe that God's patience is running out with us and maybe He will make us give up a portion of our land--cutting our land in half--that would put us in an indefensible position which might bring us back to 1967 in a lot of ways. How do you say New Madrid Fault with lands under water? I am not predicting anything but I feel confident that if we cause them to split their land that God will split ours and we may well see the Gulf of Mexico connect to the Great Lakes!

I would not expect this to happen until we actually cause this to be done to them but it would not surprise me to see serious troubles brought upon us in the meantime for what we have said, trying to warn us not to do this, such as; storms, floods, earthquakes, terrorist actions, tsunamis, financial turmoil, etc.

I have a scripture for this whole situation but let me first tell you what happened to me that relates to all of this. I began working on this post last Friday in the day, that night I was attending a large function with several hundred people in attendance. Things were going along nicely and out of the blue my name got mentioned by the speaker--I won't go into the details, but an unfounded statement was made that hit me like a slap in the face. It was such a "slap" that I saw at least one person in the audience turn around to see my reaction. My immediate reaction was ouch--where did that come from?--then I got angry. I later found out that a higher up granted approval for the comment and I viewed the whole thing as a deliberate attack against me. But life goes on, I have forgiven them and am leaving the matter to God's justice.

Feeling very discouraged the next morning, I randomly opened my Bible to Ezekiel 36. How it fits is truly amazing.

1 Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD:

2 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession:

3 Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the residue of the heathen, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and are an infamy of the people:

4 Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that are round about;

5 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.

6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:

7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.

As you can see the passage talks about how the heathen speak against Israel and claim their land for themselves--sound familiar? After reading the passage, and there is a lot more to it and I would suggest reading the rest of the chapter, I got thinking about what happened the night before to me and how it was a small microcosm of what just happened to Israel--I was verbally slapped in the face, Israel was verbally slapped in the face--then God brings me to this passage about how the heathen have spoken against her and are threatening to take her land and that God will not forsake her and that all her adversaries will be dealt with harshly as they have dealt with her!

The position that our country is placing ourselves in is treacherous and it is unfortunate because I do not believe that this is the sentiment of the American people. In fact a recent Fox News poll showed that 89% of respondents felt it was wrong to try to make Israel go back to her 1967 borders. Why won't the leaders listen? I will say it again for the sake of our country and our children maybe it will reach the ears of the decision makers; America stop "cursing" Israel or God will continue to "curse" us and we will bring judgment upon our heads. Let's not forget The Tsunami Sign.

Will the nations ever learn? No--End times Bible prophecy tells us that the nations will come against Israel, divide her land, and leave her desolate, but that does not mean that America has to--I pray we don't. What will God do in response to the nations that come against Israel? Jeremiah 30 has the sobering "continuing whirlwind" answer;

3. For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it...

10 Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

11 For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet I will not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished...

15 Why criest thou for thine affliction? thy sorrow is incurable for the multitude of thine iniquity: because thy sins were increased, I have done these things unto thee.

16 Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.

17 For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after...

23 Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.

24 The fierce anger of the LORD shall not return, until he hath done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it.

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  1. Very unfortunate for us, but my bible says that ALL nations will be against thee oh Israel. I think this will be important for Israel's defense to be seen and recognized as ONLY coming from God and God ALONE. Then ALL the nations will know that God saves and God saved Israel, not because of their deeds but because of His love and mercy for Israel, coming from Ezek,38-39. I use to find it difficult to believe that we would turn against Israel even though the Lord showed me years ago in the scriptures that it was so and now I know and now I see.

  2. It is a shame that Obama has taken this position. He does not represent my feelings towards Israel, and I hope that God takes that into account.
    The NLE 11 New Madrid Earthquake Exercise took place last week. I don't know what came from it. The link to information on it can be located here: http://securitynotes.asdwa.org/2011/05/13/virtual-engagement-fact-sheet-for-nle-11/.
    Regarding a previous post and a comment on planetary alignments, on May 24th, there is a significant one with Earth, mercury, venus and Mars. They line up like ducks in a row. Could this cause enough disruption in our own planetary field to cause an earthquake? There was a significant solar flare yesterday evening. It takes about 3-4 days for it to have an impact on the Earth. I guess time will tell.

  3. Anon

    Even though not all will not be saved we still preach, hope, and pray that they would be saved. And yes even though all nations will eventually--in the later part of the 70th week--come against Israel, I will preach, hope, and pray that at this time that we would not come against them.

  4. I found your blog through the grace of God. Thank you for your work. I have a question for you, do you think it is possible that Obama is the Antichrist.

    WWIII is kicked off after the presidential election results. Perhaps nov 23- Jan is tough times for the country and the World where everyone fears their life. January is the beginning of his last term, that also falls in line when the rise of the Antichrist comes into play. Perhaps he appears to bring world peace and becomes more popular than any leader has ever been.

    Would you see this scenario as plausible? If not, do you have any possible scenarios? Thank you

  5. AJ

    Glad that you are thinking about these things. It is hard to say who the antichrist is--there are many theories out there. I do not think that we will know for sure till we see the prophecies fulfilled. My gut feeling is that President Obama is not because he does not match the parameters.

    Interesting that you have picked WWIII toward the end of 2012--I also see that as a distinct possibility. with the antichrist arising after that. I present the scenario in The Coming Epiphany--which is linked above or can be downloaded at thecomingeppihany.com for free.