Monday, October 28, 2013

Why 2021 May be the Year of the Second Coming




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Chapter 12

When?

 

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hat is the question everyone wants the answer to; when will the will these things take place? Are you ready for the answer? I do not know. But is there anything that we can look for that will enable us to come up with possible end times scenarios and maybe even a most probable end time scenario? Yes, I believe there is.

2014/2015 Lunar and Solar Eclipses

In 2014 and 2015 there will be 4 blood moon total lunar eclipses all falling on feast days.

 

1.           Passover, April 15, 2014

2.           Tabernacles October 8, 2014

3.           Passover, April 4, 2015

4.           Tabernacles, September 28, 2015

 

What is significant about this?  A tetrad of lunar eclipses on feast days has only occurred two times in the last 500 years; 1949/50, and 1967/68. During each of those tetrads of total eclipses Israel was at war.

 

Though Israel was declared an independent state sixty years ago in 1948, the war with its neighbors began after its first day and lasted for a year. Therefore, the first lunar eclipse of 1949 occurred during this war for the establishment of Israel. The next tetrad began on Passover 1967, which was just six weeks before the Six-Day-War. Therefore, these two significant wars of Israel were covered by each tetrad period.[1]

 

The time before those tetrads of eclipses on feast days was in 1493/4. In 1492 the Jews were kicked out of Spain. Another interesting fact is that all of these tetrads occurred in Hebrew “pregnant years” or years with 13 months. These facts lead us to wonder if the upcoming tetrad is a sign from God that something significant will occur in 2014/15 in regards to Israel? Will they be involved in another major war at that time, possibly a war with her Arab neighbors where she regains the Temple Mount setting the stage for major events of the end times? This is something to ponder and watch for, and in my opinion gives us a definite indication that the end times are upon us.

The Great Pyramid

It is believed by many that the Great Pyramid complex at Giza in its design contains time markers or date ciphers pointing to the First and Second coming of the Lord. There are two scriptures that are the basis for this conjecture.

In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the Lord. And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt: for they shall cry unto the Lord because of the oppressors, and he shall send them a saviour, and a great one, and he shall deliver them. Isaiah 19: 19,20

Which hast set signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, even unto this day… Jeremiah 32:20a

Prophecy researcher Daniel Matson has made some startling discoveries regarding the date ciphers of the Great Pyramid complex at Giza. In Chapter 16 of his book, Signs of the End he states;

What is important is that there is valuable information that must be passed along that is a striking discovery concerning the Great Pyramid complex at Giza and its marking both advents of Christ. It is a discovery that is in line with the Bible, history, and the magnificence of the pyramids. It highlights the time in precise astronomical alignments. It is a discovery that fits the themes woven into the Bible concerning the coming King and it further supports the scenario developed in this book.

 

Thus his research has led him to believe that the Great Pyramid complex at Giza astronomically aligned with the First coming of the Lord, and he believes it will also at His Second Coming, and the alignment points to Rosh Hashanah 2017. What leads the author to this conclusion?

The basic idea is that the pyramid complex is a map of the heavens of a point in time when Christ the King returns with his armies. The pyramids show what is to be at meridian (Al Nitak in Orion), and also the causeways heading east from the pyramids show the importance of the rising sun or other items rising in the east. That the Sphinx also looks to the east is a factor as well. The point though was to see when there was a candidate for an alignment of Rosh Hashanah and the meridian alignment of Orion at dawn...Therefore, at dawn the morning before the Feast of Trumpets 2017, Al Nitak is precisely at meridian…

Let us not forget the all-important Christ angle to see where it might come into significance. At the moment Al Nitak is at meridian, Leo is in the east, but more importantly its star known as Regulus (the King) is precisely at the inclination of the Christ angle. Therefore, the Christ angle not only bisected Bethlehem at Christ’s birth, but it also bisects Regulus at this possible time of his Second Coming. The year 2017 is the first year from present that Rosh Hashanah comes immediately after September 20th—the time Al Nitak hits meridian precisely at dawn, and also when Regulus hits the Christ angle…

 

In analyzing the positioning of the stars, moon, and sun at the time of September 20, 2017, there was also another alignment. Venus will be in conjunction with Regulus at this time. So at this moment Venus the “Morning Star” will be aligned with the “King Star”, precisely at the Christ angle…

 

The ascending and descending passageways of the Great Pyramid share the common Christ angle, but one is actually the prime of the other. Looking at the computer model of the sky when Regulus and Venus are at the Christ angle just prior to dawn, there is again something suspicious. Below the horizon is Jupiter--referred to as the planet of the Messiah by the Jews…At the dawn of Rosh Hashanah 2017, Jupiter is at the precise Christ angle in the opposite scenario as the day before. Jupiter is below the horizon at 26.3 degrees…

 

So as there are opposite Christ angles, it would appear that the pyramid is a map of this event.  Jupiter is the suffering Messiah at the descending angle, whereas the “morning star” and glorious king are on the ascending angle.  Therefore, the Great Pyramid would be a map of this time when Rosh Hashanah coincides with the dawn meridian of Al Nitak and the positioning of Christ’s representative planets at the Christ angle.  What are the odds?  It would probably be safe to say that this is practically the only time these alignments could occur in our era… (Used by permission of author. I would highly recommend reading the entire chapter, which is available at this link http://2010rapture.org/signsoftheend/giza.html)

 

 
As already mentioned these many significant alignments lead him to believe that the First Coming was marked by the celestial alignment of the Great Pyramid, and that events surrounding the Second Coming will be marked by the celestial alignments on Rosh Hashanah in 2017. I contend that the alignment at Rosh Hashanah in 2017 is a significant occurrence and will align with important end times events. Is this why the pyramids were built, and have withstood throughout time? Are they a “sign and witness” of events surrounding the First and Second Coming of the Lord?  If they are, then they have profound prophetic significance for the year 2017, especially in light of the Revelation 12 sign of the woman clothed with the sun.

 The Woman Clothed with the Sun

In Revelation 12 I believe that we are given a very important sign regarding the coming of the Lord

12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

 

Here I believe we see a symbolic picture of the nation of Israel—the woman—and the coming of the Christ child. I believe this symbolism appeared as a sign in the skies over Jerusalem in the alignment of the stars on Rosh Hashanah 9/11/3 BC. (Note: Click on the following link to see the images of the celestial alignments I will be referring to in this section; Look Up for Your Redemption Draweth Nigh.) On that day the constellation Virgo was “clothed with the sun,” and the moon was under her feet. Above her head 3 planets—Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter—were in alignment with the star Regulus in Leo, Regulus was also in conjunction with Jupiter. This Regulus/Jupiter conjunction is what David Larson, mentioned above, believes is the famed Star of Bethlehem. The 9 stars of Leo and the 3 planets aligning with Regulus make the crown of 12 stars.

Now let’s examine the skies around the time that the Great Pyramid complex points to, Rosh Hashanah in 2017. On 9/20-21/17 Rosh Hashanah; Virgo is clothed with the Sun, the Moon is not under her feet but is in close conjunction with the sun, and there is an alignment of Jupiter, the Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus, and Regulus, with Venus in conjunction with Regulus.
 
 

Three days after this alignment on 9/23/17, Virgo is “clothed with the sun,” the moon is now under her feet, and above her head are 3 planets—Mercury, Mars, and Venus, which are in alignment with the star Regulus in Leo. The 9 stars of Leo and the 3 aligning planets make the crown of 12 stars. Thus this alignment meets the criteria of the Rev. 12 sign and is similar to the 3 BC alignment. Interestingly enough this alignment occurs the day after the second day of Rosh Hashanah on the day of Shabbat Shuvah—the Sabbath of Return.[2] We will discuss implications regarding this below.

 
 
So there we have it, the sign of Revelation 12 in the sky above Jerusalem on special days, of which in their alignments and their meanings point to major prophetic events surrounding the First and Second Coming of Christ. Thus I believe these celestial alignments in 2017 have major prophetic implications of which we will discuss more in detail after the next piece of data.

Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel Prophecy

The following is the write up of a prophecy made by Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel that I believe is significant in regards to answering the question when, and may point to a possible year of the Second Coming. The original article appeared in Israel Today, March 2008[3]

 

In 1217 the Jewish Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel prophesied that the Ottoman Turks would rule over the holy city of Jerusalem for eight Jubilees. A Jubilee is a period of 50 years according to Leviticus 25:8-13. Eight Jubilees would then be 400 years. Sure enough, 300 years later in 1517 the Ottoman Turks seized control of the city of Jerusalem and ruled over it for the next 400 years. They were finally driven out of the city and the holy land in 1917 by the Allied forces under the command of General George Allenby. The Rabbi's prophecy about the 400 years was fulfilled exactly to the year.

 

The Rabbi had also prophesied that during the ninth Jubilee Jerusalem would be a "no-man's land." This is exactly what happened from 1917 to 1967, due to the fact that the holy land was placed under British Mandate in 1917 by the League of Nations and literally "belonged" to no nation. Even after Israel's war of independence in 1948-49 Jerusalem was still divided by a strip of land running right through the heart of the city, with Jordan controlling the eastern part of the city and Israel controlling the western part of the city. That strip of land was considered and even called "no-man's land" by both the Israelis and the Jordanians. Anyone even stepping into that strip would be shot down. I lived during that period of time and well remember the reports in the newspapers and shown on TV about the division of Jerusalem. It was not until the Six Day War in 1967 when the entire west bank of the holy land was conquered by the Israeli army that the whole city of Jerusalem passed back into the possession of Israel. So once again the prophecy made by the Rabbi 750 years previously was fulfilled to the letter.

 

But that is still not the end of the matter. The Rabbi also prophesied that during the 10th Jubilee Jerusalem would be under the control of the Jews and the Messianic "end times" would begin. The 10th Jubilee began in 1967 and will be concluded in 2017.[4]

 

Let's consider the data;

Jubilees 1-8 (1517 to 1917): Turks will rule.

Jubilee 9 (1917 to 1967): Jerusalem a “no man’s land.”

Jubilee 10 (1967 to 2017): Jerusalem under Jewish control, Messianic end times will begin.

Jubilee 11: Begins at Yom Kippur 9/30/17.

 

Jubilees 1-8 and 9 were fulfilled as his prophecy stated. His prophecy also states “during the 10th Jubilee Jerusalem would be under the control of the Jews and the Messianic "end times" would begin.” Therefore if the prophecy is to be trusted, then the Messianic “end times” would have to start within the time of the 10th jubilee, before the 11th Jubilee starts at Yom Kippur on 9/30/17. Thus if the Messianic “end times” refers to the beginning of the 70th Week, then the prophecy implies the Second Coming will be no later than 2024. If the Messianic “end times” refers to Jacob’s trouble—the second half of the 70th Week—then the prophecy implies the Second Coming will be no later than 2021.

The Most Probable Scenario

Let’s see if we can integrate all of the data discussed in this book into a “most probable scenario.” Here is a synopsis of some of the data and their associated dates.

 

2014-2015: Tetrad of lunar eclipses on feast days—associated with Israel at war and or under persecution.

 

9/21/17: Pyramid alignments—associated with events surrounding the First and Second Coming of Jesus.

 

9/20-23/17: Rev. 12 Sign of the Woman clothed with the sun—associated with First and Second Comings of Jesus.

 

9/30/17: Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel prophecy—beginning of Messianic end times before Day of Atonement in 2017.

 

With this data in mind, and noting its important prophetic implications for Rosh Hashanah in 2017, I can foresee three possible scenarios based on that date;

 

1. The Rapture will occur on 9/23/17, with the Second Coming 2018-2020 necessitating a 2011-2013 start of the 70th week.

2. The abomination of desolation will occur around 9/23/17, with the Millennium beginning in 2021 necessitating a 2014 start of the 70th week.

3. The 70th Week will begin on 9/23/17 with the Second Coming in 2024.

 

Let’s consider each scenario from a scriptural point of view; in regards to scenario #1, it would suggest knowing the day of the rapture, which I believe would violate the principle of scripture of no one knowing the day and hour. In regards to Scenario #3—that the 70th week would begin on that day or around that time—is certainly a possibility that we will have to watch for, but the dates do not synchronize with fall feast days. That leaves us with scenario #2; let’s analyze this scenario to see if it is viable.

Here is the way I see the scenario; I believe the 2017 sign of the woman clothed with the sun, which aligns with the Sabbath of Return on 9/23/17, points to Israel “returning” to the Lord. As alluded to by Hosea 14:2 which is read on this special Sabbath day.

 

Take with you words, and turn to the Lord: say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously: so will we render the calves of our lips.

 

Scripture tells us that this returning to the Lord by Israel is precipitated by the performing of the abomination of desolation by the antichrist after which Israel flees into the wilderness for 3.5 years.

 

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:…18 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. Mark 13

 

1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:…

 

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days…

 

 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. Rev 12.

 

This returning to the Lord, if it occurs on 9/23/17, would follow the sign of the Great Giza Pyramid alignment at Rosh Hashanah on 9/21/2017, and may align with a significant event regarding the antichrist, such as when the devil enters into him—hmm…maybe that is why the pyramid is on the back of the dollar bill.

During this flight into the wilderness, after recognizing the Lord Jesus Christ as the true Messiah, fulfilling the Sabbath of Return, they then call out to Jesus for salvation and thus their sins are atoned for, fulfilling the feast of the Day of Atonement that occurs on 9/30/17.  And in the wilderness God provides for them and protects them, fulfilling the feast of Tabernacles that occurs on 10/5/17.

If this indeed will be the way it happens when will the beginning and end of the 70th Week be? If the 9/23/17 event is the abomination of desolation, which we have calculated to occur on day 1230, then calculating 1230 days before 9/23/17 brings us to 5/13/14—a possible beginning date of the 70th Week.[5]

Based on this possible starting point of 5/13/14 here is a chart showing the other date calculations.[6]

 

Event
Day
Date
Beginning of 70th Week
1
May 13, 2014
Abomination of Desolation
1230
Sep 23, 2017
Beginning of the rule of antichrist
1260
Oct 23, 2017
Beginning of the bowl judgments
2490
Mar 6, 2021
Armageddon
2520
Apr 5, 2021
Beginning of the Millennium
2565
May 20, 2021

 

This scenario takes into account the pyramid alignment, the importance of the alignment and fulfillment of the fall feasts, and other prophetic data. But the question remains; is it viable and or is there any confirmation of this scenario? Maybe; I just recently became aware of 2 more very important signs in the heavens that occur in 2021 that may offer a confirmation. I believe celestial signs are the most important signs that we can look for as indicated in Gen 1:14 “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.”

The Sign of the Cross

The sign occurs in the heavens on 2/11/21 and was discovered by a prophecy researcher  who believes the odds of this sign are as great as the odds of the 2017 sign—about 3 million to one.[7] (This sign can be viewed at the link in the footnote or at the link provided at the beginning of this chapter.) Therefore I agree with him that this is a significant sign and must be incorporated into any end times scenario. (Note: a cross sign also appeared at Christ’s First Coming, again discovered by the same researcher.)

In the chart above the end of the 70th Week, which would be 1290 days after day 1230, is calculated as 4/5/21, and the beginning of the Millennium which would be 1335 days later is on 5/20/21. And as you can see these end dates do not align with the important Cross sign of 2/11/21, giving the initial indication that this new scenario or the sign is not viable. However consider what happens at Trumpet 4.

 

And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. Rev 8:12

 

Basically what this verse tells me is that after the sounding of the 4th Trumpet 1/3 of the day and night is gone. Since both the day and night appear to be shortened by 1/3, could this mean that the earth’s daily rotation speeds up so that a day occurs in 1/3 less time—that a day would now only be 16 hours long instead of 24 hours long? This is something that I never considered before in my date calculations.

If the days were shortened by 1/3 and the earth’s progression around the sun stayed the same, then what this would mean practically is that the days would still be counted as normal, but the earth would not be in its normal position relative to the sun for that date. For example on any particular day of the year the earth reaches a certain position relative to the sun, and one year later it should have gone around the sun and be in the same approximate position. However, If the days were shortened by 1/3, then one year later on the calendar, the earth would only be 2/3 the way around the sun. Thus causing the position of the earth in regards to the sun to not be in sync and the earth would fall behind the calendar date. Numerically, the 365 calendar days would be shortened to about 243 days in earth/sun position days.

If the days will be shortened because of the 4th Trumpet, and Trumpet 4 occurred on 7/30/20, then the 294 days from 7/30/20 until 5/20/21 would be shortened to 196 days in earth/sun position days.  Thus the earth’s position in regards to the sun at the calculated day of the beginning of the Millennium (5/20/21) would now align with its normal earth/sun position on 2/11/21, and if the moon appeared in the same place in the sky, then the sign of the cross would be in the skies that day.

The Sign of the Infernal Trio

On 1/12/21 another sign appears in the skies discovered by the same prophecy researcher mentioned above.[8] He believes this sign is a depiction of Jesus—the rider on the white horse defeating the false prophet, the antichrist, and the devil, and throwing them into the lake of fire. He also believes the odds of this sign are about 3 million to one. In this celestial alignment we have Venus—the bright morning star/Jesus—in the constellation Sagitarius—the horse. We also have the three planets, Jupiter, Mercury, and Saturn—the antichrist, false prophet, and satan—in Capricorn—the goat. This occurrence is described in Revelation 19.

 

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

How does the sign occurring on 1/12/21 confirm the scenario that I presented above? On the chart above I have the Second Coming—when Jesus returns to the earth at Armageddon, which we know is when the infernal trio gets thrown into the pit—as occurring on 4/5/21. In shortened days 4/5/21 in earth/sun position days aligns with 1/12/21—the day of the sign of the Infernal Trio!

 

Thus these 2 signs in the heavens may offer a confirmation of this scenario. Here is a chart indicating the shortened dates.

 

Event
Day
Date
Shortened
Date
Beginning of 70th Week
1
May 13, 2014
---
Abomination of Desolation
1230
Sep 23, 2017
---
Beginning of the rule of antichrist
1260
Oct 23, 2017
---
Trumpet 4
2271
Jul 30, 2020
---
Beginning of the bowl judgments
2490
Mar 6, 2021
Dec 23, 2020
Armageddon
2520
Apr 5, 2021
Jan 12, 2021
Beginning of the Millennium
2565
May 20, 2021
Feb 21, 2021

 

To further confirm this scenario I decided to check some of the other dates. I checked the skies for three dates 10/23/17: When the antichrist is supposed to take over the world, 7/30/20: When Trumpet 4 is supposed to occur, and 3/6/21 (12/23/20): When the bowl judgments are supposed to occur. What I found in the skies on those days surprised me and may offer another confirmation of this scenario. You can see and read about these signs at The End Times Forecaster blog; What Prophecy Time is it? A Few More Confirmations!?.

I also decided to check some of the dates in the scenario with the Hebrew calendar. What I found also surprised me. 7/30/20—the possible day of Trumpet 4—falls on Tish’a B’Av, the day when the First and Second Temples were destroyed—a fitting day for retribution to be brought upon the world for their unrepentant sins. 3/6/21—the possible day for the bowl judgments to start—falls on the Sabbath Parah or Sabbath of the Red Heifer. This is when the Red Heifer would be sacrificed before the priest as recorded in Numbers 19. This Sabbath has many allusions to Jesus and His Second Coming. 4/5/21—the possible day for the Second Coming and Armageddon—falls on the last day of Passover/feast of unleavened bread. This feast commemorates Israel’s deliverance from Egypt and also has many allusions to the coming Messiah who will deliver Israel from the persecution of the antichrist at His Second Coming. 5/20/21—the possible day for the beginning of the Millennium—falls on the day after the second day of Shavuot and depending on how you count and round things off could also be a hit. Shavuot is the day Israel was given the Torah and became a nation, it is also known as Pentecost—the birthday of the Church and has illusions to the time when the kingdom of God will be established on earth.

Thus we have 6 critical dates in our scenario that align with important Jewish days, we also have many signs in the skies on several dates in our scenario. Does all of this information confirm our scenario? That is certainly something to ponder. I have put all of this date information into a diagram entitled “The 70th Week of Daniel,” viewable at the link.

Conclusion

Thus in light of all the prophecy data I have at this time, I can foresee three possible scenarios based on the important signs of 2017;

 

1. The Rapture will occur on 9/23/17, with the Second Coming 2018-2020 necessitating a 2011-2013 start of the 70th week.

2. The abomination of desolation will occur on 9/23/17, with the Millennium beginning in 2021 necessitating a 2014 start of the 70th week.

3.  The 70th Week will begin on 9/23/17 with the Second Coming in 2024.

 

Further I believe that scenario #2—“the abomination of desolation will occur on 9/23/17, with the Millennium beginning in 2021, necessitating a 2014 start of the 70th week”—is the most likely scenario.

Is scenario #2 the way it will work out? As always time will tell, but realize that this scenario takes into account and synchronizes all the date parameters, Trumpet 4, the 2 major signs of 2017, the cross sign of 2021, the infernal trio sign of 2012, the fulfilling of the fall feasts, several important dates in the Jewish calendar, and several other signs in the heavens.

If this scenario is the one, then here are some things that we can watch for. First let me mention that if this scenario is valid we do not have to have seen anything of major prophetic importance happen around 5/13/14, for I believe it is highly possible for the 70th week to start silently. Also if this scenario is valid then we will see the first 4 Seals of Revelation occur between 5/13/14 and the calculated midpoint of 10/23/17. Further if this will be the case and the antichrist will arise and take over the world on 10/23/17, then we will see the 6th Seal rapture sometime between 10/23/17 and early 2020. Also if the rapture will align with Rosh Hashanah then, Rosh Hashanah in 2018 and 2019 would be the years to watch.

So let’s get back to the original question; when? I do not know the exact year, but I do believe that we are getting close, as the prophetic data and the “most probable scenario” seems to imply. As the saying goes; time will tell, look for WWIII (Seal 2), which will most likely be the definitive sign that we are about to enter into the time period of the great tribulation in which the rapture will occur. “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.” Luke 21:28.

Of course there is always the possibility that there is other pertinent prophecy data that I am not aware of, and thus another scenario may be the correct one. However in light of the important signs around Rosh Hashanah 2017, I do not see the Second Coming (when Jesus returns to earth at Armageddon) occurring any later than 2024—meaning we are very close to seeing major prophetic events occurring.

Here is something else to consider; if the 2017 hypothesis is correct and WWIII and the other seals will be opened in the near future, are you ready? Are you spiritually, mentally, and physically prepared for the end times? That is what we will discuss in the next chapter—being prepared.

 



[2] Shabbat Shuvah or Shabbat T'shuvah ("Sabbath [of] Return" שבת שובה or "Sabbath [of] Repentance" שבת תשובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance, but is between (i.e. not including): the two consecutive Days of Rosh Hashanah; and the Day of Yom Kippur. The name Shabbat Shuvah comes from the first word of the Haftarah that is read on that day, Hosea 14:2-10, and literally means "Return!" It is alternately known as Shabbat T'shuvah owing to its being one of the Aseret Y'may T'shuvah (Ten Day of Repentance). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Shabbat#Shabbat_Shuvah
[5] It is possible to shift the date parameters up to 30 days past 5/13/14 to 6/12/14. Also remember Hebrew timing and inclusive and exclusive accounting would make all dates +- 2 days.
[6] The 45 days comes from 1335 days minus the 1290 days given to us in Daniel 12. 11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
 
Revised 5/25/14

60 comments:

  1. This all sounded sooo good till I read the "rapture" part. There is no rapture if you read carefully the Saints must go through the Tribulation.

    You are simply wrong here and I must turn this into entertainment purposes only. Sorry.

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    1. You are correct that the saints go through the tribulation (Seal 1-4) and the Great tribulation (Seal 5) and then Jesus rescues us at the 6th Seal and then God's wrath is poured out. God's children will not be subject to His wrath.

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    2. They are only sealed never raptured.

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    3. Who are the multitudes who suddenly appear in heaven then prior to the sixth seal?

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    4. Those are the saints martyred during seal 5 when the antichrist makes war against them.

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    5. Not sealed but raptured as scripture says one will be taken the other left.

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    6. Doesnt this all hinge on the founding of the state of Israel in 1948? For this generation shall not pass but that will see the return of the coming of the son of man? a generation can NOT be longer than the average lifespan of a human- so technically- that marker has already passed. 1948+70=2018 but that is if one really stretches years meant by the term 'generation.'

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    7. A generation can be taken different ways, it is not an exact term, But we know it is close.

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  2. Bill, my one disagreement I have with what you have written here is your use and application of the term 'coming'. The Lord's coming in 2017. But near the end of this article you say this: Note: A Second Coming in 2017 would also imply that the rapture would have to occur 2014-2016.
    This is exactly the point of my disagreement, because the moment of the rapture is the second coming of the Lord which occurs at the 6th seal sometime after the mid point of the 70th week of Daniel but before the end of that 7 year period. This is no 'secret' coming for every eye will see Him and they will try to hide from the wrath of the Lamb. Everything that happens from that point forward, including any events in 2017 or beyond are all part of the same second coming which occurs at the sixth seal. So, it would be much less confusing if you rather say 2017 may be the end of the seven year end time and the battle of Armageddon rather than calling it his second coming, a coming which has already occured and continues from the rapture forward.

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    1. The Second Coming is when Christ returns to earth to set up the Millennial kingdom. Here is the dictionary definition; The return of Jesus as judge for the Last Judgment. Also called Advent, Second Advent.

      The rapture is when Jesus comes to the clouds at the Sixth Seal, not the earth, and as you say every eye will see Him.

      THX for alerting me to the confusion people are having with this, in the future I will try to be less ambiguous

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  3. William, your theory could be spot on, however; when you take into account the words of the Angel as recorded in Daniel

    9, 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

    and what the Lord said as recorded by Mathew

    24, 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    A generation as noted by Psalms

    90, 10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

    That is 70 to 80 years. So, a generation from the budding of the palm tree "Israel", May 1948 to 70 years would be 2018 or 80 years 2028, but He said this generation shall not pass so your time of 2017 could be correct. There is however that 7 weeks and 62 weeks Daniel has related to us. From the going forth the command, I believe this refurs to the first and second coming. Most people don't know that the city council of Jerusalem gave the command for restoring old Jerusalem (the original city) in June 1969. If this theory is correct then we should look to the year 2018. Either way we know for certain that we have entered the last week and our Lord shall be making his presence known withing a very few years.

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    1. 2018 would be the max and remember the Jewish new year is at Rosh Hashanah in 2017.

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    2. Rev 12 is a duel event. 2017-2018. Look at star programs and the woman. Also, no man knows the day or hour is an idiom for an exact feast day. A holy convocation or wedding ceremony. (Feast of trumpets) to which one, we dont know for sure. Also tradition- only the father knows when he will tell the groom to go get his bride. On the last trump, (100th blast) we are changed. If all fall feasts were filled on Gods appointed times, the spring feasts will be also.

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    3. The spring feasts were fulfilled with the first coming of Christ, the fall feast will be at his second and I agree that the feast of trumpets will most likely align with the rapture 2018-20, though I am not dogmatic about it.

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  4. No disrespect, but this timing is off because the Antichrist hasn't even shown up yet and it ain't Obammy. Give it a few years AFTER what you said.

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    1. The antichrist is revealed at the midpoint of the seventieth week, right? Wouldn't that be next year according to this theory?

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    2. Not necessarily revealed at the midpoint but will perform abomination of desolation and take over the world at the midpoint.

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    3. My prophecy research has led me to believe that the antichrist will show up after the 91 day period of Seals 2-4. He will make himself out to be the savior of the world and will take it over at the midpoint. If the 70th Week began on 10/29/10 then the midpoint will be 4/10/14.

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  5. I believe a six seal Rapture is incorrect. Why do I say this? The seals that are opened are part of the Wrath of God that is poured out over the world and the Bible specifically states that we, his Bride, are not appointed to wrath and that we will be kept FROM the hour of Wrath.

    Another point to make is this in 2 Thes. 2.6-8 we know that the antichrist cannot be revealed until the restrainer is removed. We also know that Jesus gave power over Satan's authority on earth to the Church in Mat 16:18 which means that the antichrist will not have authority to rule on earth while the church is present, neither will Satan reveal him while the church's authority (through God's Spirit living in us) remain in place. The rapture therefore has to happen before any of the seals are opened, as the antichrist is revealed with the first seal.

    Another interesting aspect is that it would seem that the Rapture would coincide with the destruction of Damascus as described in Isa. 17. Note the mentioning of the harvest and that the gleaning grapes will be left in the field, which would point to the tribulation saints - that are not the church - who will go through the tribulation and lose their lives for their faith. We have Jesus being the first fruits of the harvest, the Rapture bringing in the majority of the harvest and the tribulation bringing in the gleaning grapes.

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    1. The first 5 seals are not part of the wrath of God, you are assuming that. How can persecuting Christians--seal 5 be part of God's wrath? It can't. Scripture tells us when God's wrath starts--after the sixth seal is opened. Look it up in Rev 6.

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    2. I was once a pre tribber so I know where you're coming from. However, compare Matt. 24 to the 6th seal. I suggest you read a great book, "The Pre Wrath Rapture of the Church" by Marv Rosenthal. It's everything you can know about the rapture in scripture.
      A few verses to check, Matt 24, "AFTER the tribulation of those days...." then it describes the rapture. Another is "At the last trump"
      The restrainer IMHO is the Archangel Michael.
      Obviously the antichrist will not be KNOWN to be the antichrist right away. But he will come on the scene as a powerful figure before the abomination of desolation.
      I pray that you find the Holy Spirit truth so that you may prepare spiritually & physically for the terrors ahead. I believe the pre trib idea is Satan's great scheme to keep believers off guard. Thus the saying, "Where is the promise of HIs coming?" The unbelievers will question Christians, so where's your rapture? Many Christians will suffer greatly and lose faith, there will be a great falling away of the faith, esp. in America where Christian persecution is almost non existent. peace. Mary Kay

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    3. THX Mary Kay--you are right on--let's awaken as many as we can.

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  6. PART I: Hi William, I am not assuming anything. The Bible clearly states that the antichrist will not be revealed until the restrainer be taken out of the way.

    2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
    2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    Who is it that is preventing antichrist from being revealed? Well, which entity is the only one assigned authority over Satan on earth? See below:

    Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    If one argues that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit, then we also know that the church and God's Spirit cannot be separated for God would not remove his Spirit from his Churcs:

    Heb_13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

    The only logical explanation that does not cause contradictions would be for God to remove the church from the earth before antichrist can be revealed.

    We also know that antichrist will be revealed when seal one is opened. He is the rider on the white horse with the bow, which is also symbolic of a covenant and the fact that he will conquer without arrows but through peace, diplomacy and treaties. For him to be revealed when the first seal is opened, it would mean that the restrainer would have had to be removed before seal one.

    We know that the church is mentioned 19 times in Revelation, but is never referred to during the seal, trumpet or bowl judgments. As such, if the bride of Christ or the Holy Spirit is still on earth at this point, there are a number of contradictions which would not match God's Word.

    If the gates of hell cannot prevail against the church, how is it that antichrist can overcome the church? (the church is clearly not specifically mentioned here but the word saints are used instead) This would be contradiction one.

    If the restrainer needs to be removed before the antichrist is revealed, how is it that the church would be present on earth when it has to be removed before antichrist can be revealed? - contradiction two.

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      Identifying the Restrainer
      Yet another argument put forth by pre-trib adherents is that they say that the Holy Spirit is removed before the antichrist is revealed; and since the Holy Spirit indwells Christians, they will be removed also. They draw this conclusion from 2 Thessalonians 2:6­–7: “And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.” They have made the assumption that it is the Holy Spirit who is the restrainer and that when He is removed—and Christians with Him—the antichrist will be revealed.

      This is an incorrect assumption, for the Holy Spirit is recorded as still being on the earth indwelling believers during the last days of the 70th Week. This is clearly evident in Joel 2:

      And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come. (Joel 2:28–31)

      To those of you that think the restrainer is the Holy Spirit, I would like for you to ponder a couple of questions. How can the Holy Spirit still be on earth during the 70th Week if the verse says the restrainer (Holy Spirit) is removed? And if He is removed, will He leave and come back? One individual told me that the Holy Spirit is not really removed, but just His restraining power; and after His restraining power is removed, that is when the rapture occurs and the Holy Spirit reverts back to His Old Testament mode. In responding to this, I would like to call your attention to Acts 2:16–21:

      But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

      After Pentecost, the apostles were indwelt with the Holy Spirit and began speaking in foreign languages. Peter likened this to what the prophet Joel said would happen during the 70th Week. Therefore, Peter establishes the fact that believers will be indwelt with the Holy Spirit during the 70th Week in the same way that they were after Pentecost. Thus, we can conclude that the Holy Spirit will be on the earth during the 70th Week and will indwell believers in the same way that the apostles were indwelt. In fact, the scripture passages above indicate that not only will the Holy Spirit be here and indwell believers, but He will manifest His power in a greater way than He is being manifested today, working signs, wonders, and miracles through believers.

      So who is the restrainer that is removed before the antichrist is revealed? I suggest that the restrainer is the Archangel Michael. Consider these two passages:..



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    Futher to this, we also see that John describes seeing the seven lamps (symbol for the church) and 24 elders with crowns which they cast before God, which points to the church being in heaven before the seals are opened. This image was not seen by any of those in the Old Testament when they were taken to heaven and shown God's throne room. God also calls the church a mystery that was kept hidden in God from the beginning but that it has been revealed when God assigned that authority to the church when he spoke to Peter and established the Church.

    Eph 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
    Eph 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

    Note that the saints that are defeated by antichrist in:

    Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. - (also in connection with seal 5 that you mentioned)

    will not be the Church - they will be the tribulation saints who will not have the authority of the church and will have to pay with their lives to obtain salvation. If this was the church, then God's Word in Matthew 16:18 would be void, which we know is not possible for God does not and cannot lie. These saints will be people who have rejected Jesus' salvation up to the rapture of the church and will include many atheists and people from other faiths, who will only come to accepting the good news during the time of tribulation. Also, note that when they appear in heaven they are under the altar and remain there until all those who would be saved during the tribulation are gathered there. They do not join the elders who are kings and priests onto the Lord when they arrive in heaven.

    Also, if you say that God's wrath only starts at seal 6, what is the purpose of the first 4 seals if they are not part of God's judgment? Many people will be killed during this time and it will be very difficult to survive even during this period of time. In my opinion the fact that heaven departs like a scroll in the sixth seal:

    Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

    points to the fact that God will remove the vale that currently exists between the spiritual and physical realms. Everyone will know at that point that God exists and that He is in the process of judging those that dwell on the earth. Also, note the references to Thomas who said that He would not believe unless he could see with his eyes:

    Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

    This also points directly to believers who will be raptured at the Lord's coming while those who did not believe will be allowed to see with their eyes the truth, starting at the sixth seal.

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      Rapture in Revelation 4?

      Finally, another very weak argument put forth by pre-trib adherents is that they say that the raptured saints are clearly seen in Revelation 4 and 5: “And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands” (Rev. 5:11). The scene depicted in Revelation 4 and 5 occurs before the seals are opened. Therefore, they conclude, the rapture occurs before the 70th Week.

      They also claim that Revelation 4:1 is the trumpet that sounds at the rapture and John who went up to heaven at the time is symbolic of the rapture: “After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.” Scripture does not support these assertions. First, scripture tells us that the voice only sounds like a trumpet, not that a trumpet is sounding. If it were a trumpet sounding, scripture would have said that. Secondly, nowhere does it mention any saints in this scene besides the 24 elders. All listed as being present in this scene are angels, beasts, and the 24 elders. That is it. One cannot assume that the 100 trillion are made up of raptured saints. God tells us who is present, and to conclude otherwise is an assumption that is not supported by the text. Therefore, scripture in no way supports the notion that raptured saints are present in Revelation 4 and 5.

      The raptured saints do, however, appear in scripture in Revelation 7:

      After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands . . . And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. (Rev. 7:9–15) [italics mine]

      These are the raptured saints, not the elders, beasts, and angels of Revelation 4 and 5.

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  8. I wanted to add that the Miracle of Garbandal, Spain where the Mother Mary appears to four girls for years indicates that the event " This is no 'secret' coming for every eye will see Him and they will try to hide from the wrath of the Lamb" could be the warning the girls prophesy about that will occur during the Feast of a Saint whom was dedicated to the Eucharist, whom I believe is St. Benedict Joseph Labre Saint of 40 hrs April 16. This warning is 3 days of darkness where every person on earth will see their lives through the Akashic records.

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    1. THX for the input. I am not familiar with this information. If there is three days of darkness I believe that the most likely time for it to occur will be after the Sixth Seal is opened and the rapture occurs. It will only be those who have not received God's Gift of Salvation, link at sidebar, who will be left.

      12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

      13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

      14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

      15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

      16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

      17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
      Rev 6

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  9. Question, you said,"When will we know which scenario is correct? When we see the seals opened. And if my hypothesis is correct and the Second Coming will be in 2017, then we will soon find out, because the horses of the Apocalypse will have to ride between now and the spring of 2014. Note: A Second Coming in 2017 would also imply that the rapture would have to occur 2014-2016."
    I'm a pre-wrath rapturist {is that even a word? : ) } so I can't see the rapture, resurrection of the saints occurring in 2014-2016. I believe the rapture happens then there's silence in Heaven for an hour then Yeshua comes to destroy the earth with the 7th seal. I think the 7th seal will be rapid fire events, not taking 2-3 yrs.for like a few days. How can the rapture come in 2014 since the antichrist would need to come to the temple, the mark implemented and the 2 waves of martyrdom? Could that all happen in 9 months? I think not.
    Your thoughts please.
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    1. I am pre-wrath also. this is what could happen in 9 months; WWIII, financial collapse, pandemic, antichrist brings peace has temple appear by UFO technology, takes over world, mark of beast, persecution of Jews and Christians. Planet X seal 6 rapture. then wrath of God is poured out on world--Seal 7 to bowl 7.

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  10. The "TWO in the field and the TWO grinding at the mill" reference meaning should be understood as one is taken into the BEAST system while the other is left doing Yahweh's end time work in the fields (of man) preparing those left worthy for the HARVEST.

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    1. If you spiritualize scripture you can make it say pretty much whatever you want it to say. You must take the literal unless the text indicates it is symbolic. One was raptured the other wasn't, its that simple.

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    2. Rapture is a play on words. We will be collected for sure (Isaiah 27:12) Just not sure where we go. The collection is during the reign of Satan. We will not endure the mark of the beast timeframe. We don't change until the 7th Trump. I understand the collection and what we are collected by. That's going to shock many. Read Ezekial 1-2, Exodus 13:21, 19:4 and Job 26:9.

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  11. The "wrath of God" is eternal damnation in hell due to punishment for sin, for those who refuse to repent and believe. It is not the tribulation and troubles that are coming on the earth. That's what it means when it says we are not appointed to wrath.

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    1. For sure God's wrath includes an eternity in hell, but it also includes the judgments coming upon the world after Seal 6, that is why it says "the great day of His wrath is come."

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    2. Eternity in hell is a LIE..... Malachi 4:3 plainly says they shall be ashes under our feet. In Is.1:28 "...and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed." Is.66:17 says "...shall be consumed together, saith the Lord." Rev 20:9 "...and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." Rev 20:14 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Doesn't say second life but second death. You should look up some of the Greek and Hebrew words that have been translated into hell, that would make it more clear to you.

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  12. William, would it mess up your day if I told you that all of your predictions here have a fatal flaw. The flaw being your reliance on the Jewish holy days being correct. You can do the research yourself but know that around 500b.c. all but a remnant of the tribe of Yahudah went to Babylon in captivity. 70 years later they were released but only 10% left. The other 90% remained in Babylon for a thousand years during which time they developed the religion you know as Judaism. The calendar they keep is Babylonian, replete with the names of Babylonian gods which are not suppose to be in their mouths. And when they came out of Babylon the went about destroying anything else that claimed to be Yahudite including the Messiah. When you have validated the truth of my words then know that the only scripture translated to English that you can rely on are the writings of Enoch. It has a prophecy that makes it self validating. The rest of what you know of as scripture must be translated through the lens of the language it was given in which you would recognize as paleo-hebrew. And even then the true meanings of many of the ancient words have been lost. Here is some truth you can sink your teeth in, the first word of Gen 1:4 means "And reverenced" not "And saw". It didn't mean "And saw" until the masorites came along (not earlier than 200b.c.) and put some marks on it that tell you to look up a completely different root word.

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    1. I disagree, I believe God has promised to preserve His Word in the book we know as the Bible.

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    2. You are 100% correct. Jubilees is not in the Bible but it is recognized as an inspired book. Jubilees cycles don't lie. 1967 was the 120th Jubilee year of Gen 6:3. 2017 is the 121st Jubilee and return of the Messiah.

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  13. This discussion is interesting. I found this because I had a dream 4 weeks ago in which a number was revealed to me. I saw it written and at first I thought it 4202017 but even then as I awoke from the dream I wasn't sure the 4 instead could have been a 9, it was difficult to tell.The Angel that had appeared to me then visited again last week. This time we were speaking in place near a high, snow covered mountain top. He wore a white robe, there were no wings per se, but we were in the air as though we were standing but on nothing. It was revealed to me that world was going to meet a catastrophic failure soon and that my family wnd loved ones would be joined together heaven, however I would no t be joining them. Instead I would be delivered unto a place that was known as the beginning place where human souls were created. I am now also curious about these horsemen being released. Now that April has passed....

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  14. Perhaps this will help, ( for those with eyes to see), the word used in 2nd Th. Ch. 2 for letteth, let, and withholdeth are all three the same Greek word (2722 in the Strong's) katecho and it means to hold down or posses. The antichrist (son of perdition) will oppose ( what the adversary does) pretending himself to be God and thinking he is above all that is called God until Jesus's second coming both reveals him to be false and destroys him with the brightness of the real God's glory. The gathering back together unto him ( Christ ), Paul is making clear that the rapture will not take place until a great falling away occurs due to the man of sin pretending to be God sitting in the temple of God. The old English word let is still in Webster's dictionary today as a 2nd meaning ( look it up) it means to withhold or hinder. Now go back and plug in opposeth as in verse 4 for withholdeth (verse 6) and letteth and let , and you will clearly see the devil will continue to play his role as antichrist until Jesus destroys him with the brightness of his coming.

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    1. THX for the input, and after the falling away comes the rapture--our deliverance from the seal 5 persecution of the antichrist

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    2. Everyone has their own opinion on this, but this is sure by the word: The rapture will occur at the LAST trump, which is a great trump. Rev. Ch 10 vs 6&7 tells us that there should be time no longer: but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. The voice of an angel sounds like a great trump and context is clear that this is the seventh or last trump in revelation. Revelation 11:15 continues And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ; and he shall reign for ever an ever. It seems simple to me that this age or aeon ends with Jesus' return at the seventh trump ( meaning of time shall be no more from Ch 10:6). We are gathered unto our Lord when Jesus returns ( rapture if that's your preference). Notice the seventh trump is the third WOE on the inhabiters of the Earth. It also includes the seven vials of God's wrath to follow. So if we are translated to our spiritual bodies at Jesus' coming we cannot suffer God's wrath. Jesus treads the winepress of God's wrath Rev 19:15 meaning he is the power source. We will be with him as this follows the marriage supper of the lamb Rev 19:9.

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    3. From The Coming Epiphany

      The fifth feast, the Feast of Trumpets, or Rosh Hashanah, is practiced as a two-day feast.
      Rosh Hashanah (Hebrew: ראש השנה‎, literally "head [of] the year") is the Jewish New Year. The Biblical name for this holiday is called Yom Teruah (Hebrew: יום תרועה‎, literally "day [of] shouting/raising a noise") or the Feast of Trumpets… It is the first of the High Holy Days or Yamim Nora'im ("Days of Awe")…Rosh Hashanah is a two-day celebration, which begins on the first day of Tishrei.

      I believe that since it is a two-day feast that it may have two separate different fulfillments. One of the events I believe this feast may align with is the rapture. The trump that is referred to at Christ’s coming to the clouds at the rapture may be a reference to the trumpet blown at this feast.

      And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matt. 24:30–31)

      The shofar blown on Rosh Hashanah is known as the last trump, which the apostle Paul mentioned in I Thes 4:16-17 and I Cor 15:52 in connection with the rapture.
      For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
      This last trump of God will signal the beginning of the Day of the Lord in which the righteous will be delivered and the wicked will be judged. In fact, ancient Jewish tradition held that the resurrection of the righteous dead would occur on Rosh Hashanah with the blowing of the shofar (trumpet), which is why a shofar was engraved on Jewish gravestones. These two major occurrences signaled by the blowing of the trumpet are consistent with the historical use of the trumpet in Israel as explained by Marvin Rosenthal:

      The blowing of the trumpet in ancient Israel had two primary functions. The first was to call a solemn assembly; that is, when the children of Israel were to be summoned to God’s presence, the trumpet was blown (Ex 19:13,17,19; Num 10:2). And second, when Israel, under divine direction, was to go to war, the trumpet was to be blown (Num 10:9; Jud 7; Jer. 4:19-21).

      Kevin Howard has this to say about the judgment aspect of the Feast of Trumpets

      Rosh Hashanah was often referred to as Yom Ha-Din (“Judgment Day”) by rabbis since it began the Days of Awe, the traditional time of God’s judgment.

      The prophet Zechariah tells of the judgment that will transpire when the trumpet is blown: “And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south” (Zech 9:14). The benediction given for the last 2,000 years during synagogue services on Rosh Hashanah also speaks of the trumpet being blown at Rosh Hashanah at the Lord’s return, as explained by Kevin Howard:

      The benediction also speaks of the end of days when God will again reveal Himself through fire and the sounding of the shofar as He sends the Messiah: ‘The Lord shall appear over them; his arrow shall go forth like lightning. The Lord shall sound the shofar and march amid the storms of the south. (cf Zech 9:14)


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  15. You might find this interesting! If you google the year the dome of the rock was erected you will find it to be 688 a.d.. 1260 + 688 = 1948 the year Israel become a nation again. There are several scriptural proofs for days in prophecy being fulfilled in years. When the spies of Israel scouted out the land of Cannan for 40 days because of their lack of faith God appointed them 40 years in the wilderness. In Ezekiel a year is appointed for a day. In the New Testament when Jesus is told by the scribes and pharasees that Herod is out to kill him, Jesus says you tell that fox I will be here today, the day after, and the next healing, etc. and his ministry ended up lasting 3-3.5 years. When reading Rev. ch 12 as a whole it encompasses from the beginning of Israel to the cross and then the time of the woman in the wilderness for 1260 days. The devil seeks to destroy the seed of the woman which have the testimony of Jesus. If the 1260 days were prophetic years the picture might have more clarity. More blessed is he that makes it till the 1335! Going backward from 1948 a total of 2520 years takes us back to about when Daniel was writing the prophecy. Just some things I look at. In Daniel when 2300 days ( or possibly years ) are mentioned it is in the context of when Greece has taken power. Jesus validated Daniel prophecy on the desolation of abomination in Mt.24. In the old testament God spoke of the land being made desolate when his chosen were removed. For any temple other than God's to occupy his Holy Mountain of Zion is an abomination. Just possibilities.

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    1. THX for the input, definitely food for thought.

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  16. Richard to Theophilus ,

    William, as a fellow servant of God I conclude we are all suppose to bring our talents together to glorify not ourselves but God. I have only posted a couple of times and as of today have gone back and read many of the past posts. Theologians for many years have been arguing this topic. I have been amazed at how many teach what is contradictory to God's word, but you can not change their mind because of something they read in some book written by man. I believe that despite all the confusion on this topic there are a few that are approaching the Truth. I do realize how long it takes to grow in the word just as we are to grow as Christians. Prophecy covers ( some say a fourth and some say a third of the Bible although I have not counted the exact number of verses) so much of the Bible that I see understanding it as a growing experience. I will try to contribute because I feel God gave me a job to do, just as I see you feel strongly led. Most of what you say I also agree with that the pre-trib rapture is what people want to hear as opposed to what the Bible teaches. Jesus prayed that we would not be taken out of this world , but would be kept from the evil (Jn 17:15 ). This verse by itself could be used to negate a pre-trib rapture as well as in Acts 14:22 which makes it clear that through much tribulation do we enter into the kingdom of God. Surely in this world we will have tribulation (Jn 16:33) , but Jesus makes clear our peace is in him so be of good cheer, Jesus has overcome the world. Only through him do we overcome the world. All this I said not for your benefit, William, but for those who have read the books of men. So now moving forward on the topic of when the rapture occurs I personally have seen it occurring at the seventh trump, because of all the trump verses ( 1Th 1:4 , 1 Co 15:52 , Mt 24:31 ). Jesus tells us in the Olivet prophecy ( Mt 24:25 & Mk 13:23 ) that we are to take heed for He has foretold us all things. The question that the disciples asked and Jesus answered was WHEN SHALL THESE THINGS BE? AND WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN OF THY COMING, AND OF THE END OF THE WORLD? The word used is world but in the Greek is Strong's165 aion meaning age time. This is the same word used in the great commission where Jesus says he will be with us even until the end of the world. So much for the Holy Spirit being taken out in 2ThCh2:7. The one who is letting or hindering is the son of perdition and the context says he is the one taken out of the way or destroyed by the brightness of His coming. Now getting back on track the 2nd coming is also the end of the aion or world. Can you tie this to the sixth seal? Is it possible that the sixth seal declares the 2nd coming is about to happen but not quite yet. Or another possibility does everything after the sixth seal includes the seven trumps and seven vials of God's wrath. I have seen your argument quoting the events of the sixth seal verses but if the rapture occurs exactly at that point, why all the other verses emphasizing the last trump. Your thoughts please.

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    1. I believe the last trump refers to the last trump during Rosh Hashanah not Trumpet 7.

      From The Coming Epiphany

      It is clearly evident that the first four feasts were fulfilled at the time of Christ’s First Coming and thus we can reason that the last 3 feast will be fulfilled in events surrounding Christ’s Second Coming. Let’s examine the tree remaining feasts and see how they may be fulfilled. The fifth feast, the Feast of Trumpets, or Rosh Hashanah, is practiced as a two-day feast.
      Rosh Hashanah (Hebrew: ראש השנה‎, literally "head [of] the year") is the Jewish New Year. The Biblical name for this holiday is called Yom Teruah (Hebrew: יום תרועה‎, literally "day [of] shouting/raising a noise") or the Feast of Trumpets… It is the first of the High Holy Days or Yamim Nora'im ("Days of Awe")…Rosh Hashanah is a two-day celebration, which begins on the first day of Tishrei.

      I believe that since it is a two-day feast that it may have two separate and different fulfillments. One of the events I believe this feast may align with, though I am not dogmatic about this, is the rapture. The trump that is referred to at Christ’s coming to the clouds at the rapture may be a reference to the trumpet blown at this feast.

      And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matt. 24:30–31)

      The shofar blown on Rosh Hashanah is known as the last trump, which the apostle Paul mentioned in I Thes 4:16-17 and I Cor 15:52 in connection with the rapture.
      For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
      In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
      This last trump of God will signal the beginning of the Day of the Lord in which the righteous will be delivered and the wicked will be judged. In fact, ancient Jewish tradition held that the resurrection of the righteous dead would occur on Rosh Hashanah with the blowing of the shofar (trumpet), which is why a shofar was engraved on Jewish gravestones. These two major occurrences signaled by the blowing of the trumpet are consistent with the historical use of the trumpet in Israel as explained by Marvin Rosenthal:

      The blowing of the trumpet in ancient Israel had two primary functions. The first was to call a solemn assembly; that is, when the children of Israel were to be summoned to God’s presence, the trumpet was blown (Ex 19:13,17,19; Num 10:2). And second, when Israel, under divine direction, was to go to war, the trumpet was to be blown (Num 10:9; Jud 7; Jer. 4:19-21).

      Kevin Howard has this to say about the judgment aspect of the Feast of Trumpets

      Rosh Hashanah was often referred to as Yom Ha-Din (“Judgment Day”) by rabbis since it began the Days of Awe, the traditional time of God’s judgment.

      The prophet Zechariah tells of the judgment that will transpire when the trumpet is blown: “And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south” (Zech 9:14). The benediction given for the last 2,000 years during synagogue services on Rosh Hashanah also speaks of the trumpet being blown at Rosh Hashanah at the Lord’s return, as explained by Kevin Howard:


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    2. I agree Jesus was definitely the Passover Lamb. The Holy Spirit came on Pentecost. I believe the Holy Feast provide the pattern. Given the few days separating the last three feast I think it is safe to say things will happen quickly at Jesus second coming. I personally do not worry about anything past the point of being gathered back together to Jesus. At this point I will know what I need to know! My beef has always been with those who teach Christians will be raptured before any tribulation.

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    3. You are right, Christians have endured tribulations throughout all of history, why should now be any different. I am glad we will be out of here when God's wrath starts at the sixth seal.

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  17. You are in the ballpark. What throws you off is the misinterpretation of the 70 weeks. The Hebrew word for weeks is Shabuwa. Strongs 7620. Plural means feast of weeks, Shavuot. Its a once a year festival. Deut 16:10. 70 weeks means 70 years from the restoration of Israel (2018). This is God's rest. Dan 9:25 from commandment to restore until the Messiah is 69 weeks, meaning 69 years (2017). This puts the beginning of 7 years tribulation at 2011. Fact check. Last Jubilee year was 1967. 6-day war. Jerusalem was reunited with Israel on the 7th day. Just like creation. 50 years also brings you to 2017. Coincidence? For those who don't believe in Rapture, Isaiah 27:12, you will be gathered one by one. Just don't go looking. He'll find you.

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  18. No one knows the day or the hour when the feast of trumpets will happen it is dependent two people spotting the new moon. I believe that is what Jesus was referring to when he said that statement. Even today if you say "No one knows the day or the hour" to a Jew they think of the feast of trumpets. We will know and all ready do know when the rapture will occur just not the day or the hour. I hope you are all prepared.

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  19. Four Blood Moons and two Solar Eclipses 2014 – 2015

    Another End-of-the-World Prophecy?
    You might have heard that the lunar eclipse on September 28, 2015 will complete a series of six “Signs in the Sky”.

    Will it have an effect on your life that a tetrad of four total lunar eclipses (Blood Moon) and two solar eclipses (Black Sun) align with significant Set-Apart (i.e. holy) dates of YHVH , the Eternal ONE in 2014 through to 2015?

    Many are convinced that this is not a coincidence, but that these eclipse clusters will turn out to be very significant harbingers of things to come.

    However, the last lunar eclipse on 28 September 2015 should not be identified as the apocalyptic blood moon described in Scripture passages like Revelation 6:12-17. These eclipses are not the cosmic signs of the 6th seal of the Book of Revelation in the Bible!

    The ‘Signs in the Sky’ in 2014 and 2015 are harmless Foreshadows, as a Warning, pointing to the Big, Earth and Heaven shaking Events which will occur at some stage in the “Day of YHVH”.

    They carry a significant message for those who have an ear to hear. Jesus foretold that powerful prophecies would smite a clueless and unprepared world. There is a timeline and an exact order of prophetic events before “the Battle of Armageddon” and Christ’s Return. But understand. When these final events arrive, it will already be too late for you to heed Yahshua Messiah’s words.

    For further information regarding the “Signs in the Sky” please go to e.g.: http://issuu.com/eli.yah/docs/four_blood_moons_2014_2015.docx

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  20. No prediction but I believe that 2026 is when Christ will return

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    1. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

      30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

      i believe he is already here the orionid meteor shower on the 267/27 october was the stars falling and the son of man thats the orion constellation ;)

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  21. The Church goes to the place prepared by JESUS.

    Jesus said , I go to Prepare a Place for you in the NEW JERUSALEM

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  22. Rev 12:1-2 is a beginning trib sign. Same sign as the Micah 5:3. The Remnant will return. A transition from the church back to Israel. Rapture will be on (a) feast of trumpets though. No the church will not be here during Tribulation. The church are not tribulation saints. There is a difference. The church attends the wedding and returns with Christ. We are not in trib yet, but soon will be.

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    1. Your thesis contradicts scripture and thus cannot be correct. The rapture is part of the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord occurs after the moon is turned to blood (Acts 2:20) The Moon is turned to blood at Seal 6. Thus rapture is after Seal 6.

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  23. Be advised and be aware.

    https://noahidenews.com/2017/04/02/yet-another-talmudic-tinky-winky-noahide-proselyte-manufactured-secret-mystical-rapture-date-to-deceive-the-anti-christ-judaized-masses/

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