Friday, February 4, 2011

Setting Dates

Throughout our lifetimes we have most likely heard of someone setting a date for the rapture or the "end of the world"--the latest example being Harold Camping of Family Radio--May 21, 2011.

On May 21st, Judgment Day will begin and the rapture (the taking up into heaven of God’s elect people) will occur at the end of the 23-year great tribulation. On October 21st, the world will be destroyed by fire (7000 years from the flood; 13,023 years from creation).

Will this be the way it happens? Absolutely not! How do we know? Because of what scripture says. God clearly tells us that no one knows the day or hour of the rapture. God also clearly tells us that before Christ returns at Armageddon the antichrist will reign for 3.5 years, and the trumpet and bowl judgments will occur. So therefore according to scripture the rapture will not occur on May 21, 2011 and the world will not end on October 21, 2011 or for that matter any time before the antichrist begins to reign. This is what a literal interpretation of scripture demands. The only way people can support erroroneous theories such as the one above is to forsake a literal interpretation of scripture and spiritualize everything.

Some may accuse me of being a "date setter" because I have suggested that we may see Christ return in 2016 and the rapture in the time frame of 2013 - 2015. I feel led to address this issue...
First off let me plainly state I do not know when Christ will return and I do not know when the rapture will occur. What I have pointed out in my writings is that there is a lot of evidence suggesting that the antichrist may arise near the end of 2012 and the beginning of 2013. There is also a lot of evidence pointing to Jesus returning to earth at Armageddon in 2016. If the antichrist does indeed arise and take over the world in 2013 with Christ returning to earth in 2016 then we would see the rapture in the 2013 to 2015 time range. If the antichrsit arises in 2014 then Christ would return in 2017 with the rapture in the 2014 to 2016 time range, etc.

How do I know that? Well scripture is clear that the antichrist is only given 3.5 years to reign.

3. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9. If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:3-9

His reign begins after the abomination of desolation and continues for forty two months--3.5 years until he is thrown in the bottomless pit at the return of Christ. We also know that after his reign begins he will start to persecute Jews and Christians--seal 5.

1. Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
2 Thes 2:1-4

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. Rev 13:7

After the persecution of seal 5 Christians will be rescued at the rapture which occurs after the sixth seal is opened, God's wrath is then poured out upon the world.

12. And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13. And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16. And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17. For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Rev 6:12-17

So it will be possible to set a date for the return of Christ after we see the abomination of desolation and the antichrist take over the world. It will be 42 months or 1260 days after that and the rapture would occur at an unknown time between those two events.

Again In my writings I am not predicting when Christ will return. I do not know when it will be, but I have theorized that there is a lot of evidence pointing to 2016 as the year of the second coming with the antichrist arising in 2013. If that will be the case then the rapture would have to be between 2013 and 2015. When will we know for sure? When we either know for sure that a seal has occurred or see the antichrist arise.

BTW I have come across another piece of information pointing to a 2016 return of Christ that I will try to post in the near future. For a further discussion and explanation of these matters I suggest reading The Coming Epiphany.



    9-30-08 DOW-JONES FELL 777.7 POINTS, major Sign from God,
    record one-day point drop in Dow-Jones, DJIA
    9-30-08 Jewish New Years Day,,,,,1st day of Jewish year 5769
    during Christian year 2008
    5769 + 2008 = 7777,,,,major Sign from God
    on the day that the Dow-Jones fell 777.7 points
    The Dow-Jones closed at 9605 on 9-11-01 tuesday, 9-10-01 monday, and 9-07-01 friday, and 9-11-09.
    9605 = 9(605) = 9(6+0+5) = 9(11) = 9/11/01 = date of disaster.
    So, God closed the Dow on 9-11 points, on date 9-11 (sept 11). Twice.
    The Disaster, and exactly 8 years later.

    On Sept 11, 2001 (9-11-01), the WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSED,,,,,exactly 7 years later, 9-11-08, WORLD TRADE COLLAPSED, exactly 7 years later, on 9-11-08,,,,,,IN THE CENTERPOINT OF THE 7-DAY "FEAST OF TABERNACLES", which is a fore-shadow of the 7-year GREAT TRIBULATION.
    On 9-30-08, on a major Jewish Holy Day (Jewish New Year's day) , the Dow-Jones fell it's record one-day drop of 777.7 points, God's signature number. On that day, the Jewish calendar year (5769) plus the Christian calendar year (2008) = 7777. Another astounding Sign from God!

    At the end of the GREAT TRIBULATION, another WORLD TRADE COLLAPSE will occur, in Revelations chapter 18.
    The 7 year period from 9-11-01 to 9-11-08 is a foreshadow of the Tribulation, with a WORLD TRADE COLLAPSE at the end of each.
    There are many 7-year-periods in the Bible.

    The all-time RECORD for one-day DOW-JONES stock market point drop was 777.7 points, 7 years after the WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSE, on Sept 30, 2008,,,,as a result of the WORLD TRADE COLLAPSE.

    The Dow-Jones closed at 9605 on 9-11-01 tuesday, 9-10-01 monday, and 9-07-01 friday, and 9-11-09.
    9605 = 9(605) = 9(6+0+5) = 9(11) = 9/11/01 = date of disaster.
    So, God closed the Dow on 9-11 points, on date 9-11 (sept 11). Twice.
    The Disaster, and exactly 8 years later.

    the lowest close for S&P 500 INDEX for the last 10 years is 666 in March 2009.
    I have great confidence in Dean Coombs,
    God has validated his ministry with great Signs and Wonders.
    Signs/Wonders were centered around Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Jesus, Apostles,,,,,,,and now the ENDTIMES!

    Very fascinating things about the Bible:
    Dean Coombs is a Prophet of God, in Toronto, Canada.
    His on-line ministry is safe, free, Christian, anonymous.

    7 is God's number for God, completion, perfection.........777 = God the Father
    666 = the ANTI-CHRIST
    888 = the SON OF GOD, Jesus Christ (gematria)
    (Quote from JOHN MCTERNAN):
    On September 11, 2008, Hurricane Ike wa

  2. William,

    Thanks for your insight on this subject. It's sad so many are deceived by the organization. Hopefully, they keep their faith when they realize they've been duped.

  3. Dennis

    THX for the great info. Those happenings are definitely beyond chance.

    Here's another one: On 2/22/2010--the date encoded on the back of the dollar bill--At 11:00 EST gold was at $1111/oz. At 1:11 PM EST the Dow was down 11.11. points, which was a drop of .11%. I believe that those occurrences were beyond chance and may have been a sign or signal of future events regarding the United States. See


    Yes, I fell really bad for them because many of them are very sincere and are just trying to help people. Unfortunately it also makes Christians look bad.

  4. I've been studying Gematria a long time; 777=qlipoth...just saying. May the Ruach H'Kadasha be with you all!!

  5. 777 can refer to many things. Like 7 seals, 7 trumpets, and 7 bowls. So it can mean different things to different people based on their perspective.